1977

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1977 PFR Seminar Report |
1977 Pacific Forest Rally - The Seminar |
"Umm Hermann you're the emcee not the chief speaker." |
Pacific Forest Rally, organized by Lorne Nicklason, Rick Huurman, Rob Aird and a host of others under the auspices of the Fiat Auto Club, was the first event in these parts to attempt the English style Rally Forum, or Rally Seminar as it was known in this case. The basic idea is to get some reps from sponsors and manufacturers, a few hotshoe drivers and articulate co-drivers, invite a mass of motorsport enthusiasts, and have a question and answer period. |
PFR, as I will call it (you can pronounce it like the sound of air rushing out of a Dunsafe), was born at the end of last year's Rocky Mountain Rally in Calgary. A mini meeting of Rally Directors and interested competitors and organizers was called by lain Tugwell so we could give vent to our frustrations. A nice gesture from the Far East. One of the topics, as usual, was the difficulty a Westerner has in contesting the Castrol Championship, due mainly to his distance from most of the events. Lauri and Lorne, among others, started tossing around the idea of a low key National to be held in the logging roads of the Eastern Valley and the Fraser Canyon. It wouldn't be a big organizational deal, just a method for Western crews to collect a few extra National points. |
Well, that's the way it started out, with a start and finish in Chilliwack and Hope. Then the memos started flying. We Westerners, with our "parochial Western events" to quote one fellow, were not holding up the side, sponsor and PR wise. It had to be a big deal, Vancouver start, the whole shitaree. Having organized a couple of these myself, I can imagine Lorne's reaction. However, he and his crew went out and did a hell of a job in the last month. He was fortunate in having enough regular competitors who were willing to help. The anonymous group of manufacturers, fronted by Dave Weston, who were interested in supporting the series, expressed interest and British Leyland said "We'll sponsor a rally forum. " |
Except for a last minute pullout by BL, a subsequent return, and other last minute hassles, things were on. Walter Boyce was here!! My God! The seminar was preceded by some press stuff including some driving in the Deep Cove area. When Patti and I arrived at the Plaza 500 Thursday night, who was there but Hermann and Lynne Kroetlinger! "What are you doing here?" "I've been appointed acting Region Executive Director," he says. Oh really! Funny, there were lots of Region executive types there, and none of them claimed to know anything about it, I'm sure this is going to be food for an article later on, so stay tuned. |
After a good film about Leyland Special Tuning, the emcee (none other than the aforementioned acting Executive Director) introduced our panel. It consisted of Boyce, Robin Edwardes, Taisto Heinonen, Max Wickins (BL) and Peter Brand. |
Dave Weston and the famous Susan Elliott of Castrol were sitting on the sidelines. The audience, a good turnout, consisted of a mix of rallyists, racists and people I've never seen before. |
After introductory remarks by the panel, with the usual "Rah, rah, if we all pull together rallying will be great" crap, the questions got under way. Now, I think that we in BC put on rallies that are comparable to rallies anywhere in the country, and this has been borne out by BC crews that travel back East, and Easterners who appear here. Its getting to be a bit of a pain to hear the same old stuff about rallying's potential over and over again, It was sounding like a rally organizer's seminar and I'm sure it turned off some of the people that were new to the sport. |
Some clown from the self recognized centre of rallying in Canada got up and said "When I pick up a copy of the Toronto or Montreal paper I can see stories about rallying. I wonder if the members of the panel could give a capsule comment to people out here on how they can go about getting rally news in the press? " Great stuff. In view of the problems we've had in Mountain Trials with hotshoe factory drivers not showing up at the last minute and sponsor's reps, etc. not coming through, I asked Max Wickins and Dave Weston how serious their commitments to rallying really were. Wickins replied that BL was rock solid and that our experiences in the past were not going to be repeated with BL. Weston said that the past was regretable but that we should have some sympathy for budgets and company policy. This after exorting amateur organizers to do their utmost. I'm sorry, but I just can't buy that. Budgets are known well enough in advance to prevent the sort of last minute hassles we have run into. |
Things were starting to drag a bit as the few questions elicited long responses which elicited further comments from the panel, etc. This is where an emcee can really show his stuff and divert the trend away from organizing and rah rah and speed the replies up. However, Hermann aggravated the problem by adding his own long comments and by paraphrasing the remarks of panel members. Things just sort of meandered off and were eventually brought to a halt with several members of the audience left with their questions unasked, Weston and Elliott and a few others left hurriedly for an interview. |
The evening finished off with an excellent film on the Castrol Autosport 1976 Championship in England and another film that we didn't stay for, Basically, I think the forum idea has great potential but it requires a good, laconic moderator and less sponsor's reps monopolizing the occasion. Bring on the drivers and co-drivers! To hell with the politics. |
Paul Kluckner Reprinted from the June 1977 issue of the "The Resonator" the official publication of the West Coast Autosport Club |
1977 PACIFIC FOREST RALLY – THE RALLY
1977 PACIFIC FOREST RALLY - THE RALLY
The Renault staggered to a halt, brakes smoking, at the end of the last stage and we thought we had it made. We had moved up a place in the Prod. standings due mostly to Andy Field dropping out with fuel problems.
The results were finalized quickly and a rumored protest from Boyce and Edwardes over the transit penalty didn't materialize. An excellent buffet lunch was provided by the Plaza 500 and the awards were presented with short speeches. The rally was most enjoyable except for the delays. The roads were first class and the last minute problems with control placement and such weren't really evident to the competitors. Lorne, Rick and everyone else connected with the rally deserve congratulations for a good job. I understand they're planning to do it again. Taisto and Tom did a great job beating Walter in his old car, They won the rally on their own performance, not on the fact that Walter had two flats on the last stage, as the media reports seemed to indicate.
Oh by the way, neither Dave Weston nor Susan Elliott nor any other Castrol reps were present at the awards lunch. They were present in the hotel 15 minutes or so before the start of the lunch. I'll ask you again, Mr. Weston, how serious is your commitment and that of our sponsors?
Pacific Forest Rally Results
1 | Taisto Heinonen/Tom Burgess | Celica | 116:38 |
2 | Sven Halle/Tony Morris | Datsun 610 | 117:07 |
3 | Burckhard Skowrounek/Walt Leemans | Damun 200SX | 119:09 |
4 | Walter Boyce/Robin Edwardes | TR7 | 119:15 |
5 | John Nixon/Lynn Nixon | Datsun 510 | 119:42 |
Ist Prod | Adrian Carson/Janie Rodgers | Rabbit | 122:59 |
20th O/A | Lauri Paivarinta/Paul Kluckner | R12 | 146:31 |